{"id":8278,"date":"2012-12-20T22:43:29","date_gmt":"2012-12-20T20:43:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/?p=8278"},"modified":"2012-12-20T22:43:29","modified_gmt":"2012-12-20T20:43:29","slug":"nego-a-la-hausse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/2012\/12\/20\/nego-a-la-hausse\/","title":{"rendered":"N\u00e9go \u00e0 la hausse ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Quand on n\u00e9gocie, c&rsquo;est pour avoir un truc \u00e0 un meilleur prix. Sinon, on est bon pour\u00a0l&rsquo;asile.<\/p>\n<p>Et bien, je dois surement me poser des questions, parce que j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 plusieurs fois fait \u00e7a.<\/p>\n<p>La derni\u00e8re fois, j&rsquo;avais organis\u00e9 un appel d&rsquo;offre, entre 5 \/ 6 boites.<\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;une des r\u00e9ponses \u00e9tait en m\u00eame temps de qualit\u00e9, mais dramatiquement sous estim\u00e9e par rapport aux autres, d&rsquo;un facteur 3 \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai trouv\u00e9 \u00e7a vraiment dommage, parce que si on s&rsquo;arr\u00eatait l\u00e0, cette r\u00e9ponse ne pouvait pas passer.<\/p>\n<p>Pourquoi ? Parce que demander \u00e0 une boite de faire un job, si on sait d\u00e8s le d\u00e9but qu&rsquo;elle a tant que \u00e7a sous estim\u00e9, c&rsquo;est envoyer le projet ET le prestataire dans le mur.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai appel\u00e9 le client de l&rsquo;appel d&rsquo;offre, et j&rsquo;en ai discut\u00e9 avec lui. et on a convenu qu&rsquo;on pouvait essayer de corriger le tir.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai donc ensuite appel\u00e9 la boite qui avait sous estim\u00e9 la charge, et j&rsquo;ai discut\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0franc jeu\u00a0\u00bb. Quelques jours apr\u00e8s, on a re\u00e7u une autre proposition, a peu pr\u00e8s deux fois plus cher.<\/p>\n<p>Au final, c&rsquo;est ce prestataire qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 retenu, et maintenant que le projet est fini, il apparait qu&rsquo;effectivement le projet aurait \u00e9t\u00e9 ing\u00e9rable dans le cadre de la premi\u00e8re proposition.<\/p>\n<p>Dans cette histoire, <strong>les choses ce sont tr\u00e8s bien termin\u00e9es<\/strong> : <strong>le projet a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9ellement super bien \u00a0men\u00e9, par tout le monde<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Mais on ne peut faire un truc comme \u00e7a que dans un contexte tr\u00e8s tr\u00e8s particulier : cela demande un niveau de confiance tr\u00e8s fort entre les uns et les autres.<\/p>\n<p>Le client a du me faire confiance, sur ma capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 juger la sous estimation.<\/p>\n<p>Le client a du avoir une sacr\u00e9 maturit\u00e9, pour comprendre que dans de telles conditions, on part dans le mur. J&rsquo;en connais qui aurait dit : \u00ab\u00a0c&rsquo;est le probl\u00e8me du prestataire\u00a0\u00bb&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Je dois dire que je trouve tr\u00e8s r\u00e9confortant que de telles choses puissent arriver \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quand on n\u00e9gocie, c&rsquo;est pour avoir un truc \u00e0 un meilleur prix. Sinon, on est bon pour\u00a0l&rsquo;asile. Et bien, je dois surement me poser des questions, parce que j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 plusieurs fois fait \u00e7a. La derni\u00e8re fois, j&rsquo;avais organis\u00e9 un appel d&rsquo;offre, entre 5 \/ 6 boites. 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