{"id":6757,"date":"2012-01-15T20:00:55","date_gmt":"2012-01-15T19:00:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/?p=6757"},"modified":"2012-01-15T11:07:38","modified_gmt":"2012-01-15T10:07:38","slug":"systeme-d-information-demeler-le-plat-de-nouille","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/2012\/01\/15\/systeme-d-information-demeler-le-plat-de-nouille\/","title":{"rendered":"Syst\u00e8me d&rsquo;information &#8211; D\u00e9m\u00ealer le \u00ab\u00a0plat de nouille\u00a0\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>D\u00e8s qu&rsquo;une boite a une certaine taille, qu&rsquo;elle a plusieurs canaux de distributions, un \u00ab\u00a0historique\u00a0\u00bb informatique, n\u00e9cessairement, le syst\u00e8me d&rsquo;information vieilli, devient <strong>de plus en plus compliqu\u00e9 et de plus en plus cher \u00e0 maintenir et \u00e0 faire \u00e9voluer<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Ce syst\u00e8me est pratiquement toujours compos\u00e9 de briques diff\u00e9rentes, ERP, Compta, Caisse, Logistique, &#8230; et e-commerce \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p>Les connections entre les syst\u00e8mes se sont faites au fil du temps.<\/p>\n<p>Assez rapidement, on se retrouve avec plusieurs probl\u00e8mes :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Les briques, individuellement, ont vieilli<\/li>\n<li>L&rsquo;interconnection du syst\u00e8me est devenu anarchique, n&rsquo;importe quel brique effectuant des \u00e9changes avec n&rsquo;importe quel autre composant.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/deviseshadok.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-6760\" title=\"deviseshadok\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/deviseshadok.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"246\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/deviseshadok.jpg 246w, https:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/deviseshadok-210x300.jpg 210w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 246px) 100vw, 246px\" \/><\/a>Comment faire \u00e9voluer un tel syst\u00e8me ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Comment sortir de cette logique infernale ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>On peut se dire : on va remplacer tel brique, par une autre plus moderne. Au fil du temps, on pourra remplacer toutes les briques et avoir un syst\u00e8me \u00ab\u00a0comme neuf\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cela ne va pas vraiment r\u00e9gler le<\/strong> <strong>probl\u00e8me<\/strong>, et <strong>le cout de cette greffe va \u00eatre tr\u00e8s \u00e9lev\u00e9<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Et on sait bien que tout remettre \u00e0 plat, c&rsquo;est d&rsquo;une part tellement cher qu&rsquo;on ne le fera jamais, et d&rsquo;autre part, m\u00eame si on avait le budget, \u00e7a ne serait un pas une bonne id\u00e9e, car le projet serait trop gros, avec tous les risques associ\u00e9s \u00e0 ce type de \u00ab\u00a0big bang\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Alors, <strong>que faire docteur ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mon avis est que <strong>la seule solution raisonnable est de passer par une approche SOA<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Il faut, d\u00e9j\u00e0, <strong>mettre fin aux \u00e9changes anarchiques entre les diff\u00e9rentes briques<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Il faut donc d\u00e9finir des couches d&rsquo;\u00e9changes, des API, qui d\u00e9inissent des objets et m\u00e9thodes m\u00e9tiers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Les briques ne doivent dialoguer qu&rsquo;au travers ces nouveaux composants<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Ces couchent doivent \u00eatre bien faites : il s&rsquo;agit de mod\u00e9liser, le plus proprement possible, les objets m\u00e9tiers.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Exemple classique : les informations sur un client.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Dans bien des boites, la logique \u00ab\u00a0full CRM\u00a0\u00bb n&rsquo;est pas en place (c&rsquo;est un \u00ab\u00a0graal\u00a0\u00bb, en ce sens que ce n&rsquo;est jamais compl\u00e8tement possible de toute fa\u00e7on), et <strong>les infos sur le client sont en fait r\u00e9parties dans diff\u00e9rentes briques<\/strong> : e-commerce, ERP, solution d&#8217;emailing, application de call center&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Dans notre approche, on d\u00e9fini une couche abstraite permettant de mod\u00e9liser le client, et toutes les informations associ\u00e9es \u00e0 ce client.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">En tant qu&rsquo;utilisateur de cette couche, j&rsquo;aurais une vision propre, un r\u00e9f\u00e9rentiel unique, coh\u00e9rent<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">En fait, c&rsquo;est cette couche qui doit \u00ab\u00a0se d\u00e9brouiller\u00a0\u00bb avec l&rsquo;existant, et aller piocher les infos l\u00e0 ou elles sont<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Jusqu&rsquo;au jour ou l&rsquo;entreprise d\u00e9cidera de fair \u00e9voluer la couche CRM, qui pourra alors se brancher simplement \u00ab\u00a0sous\u00a0\u00bb cette couche.<\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;avantage de l&rsquo;approche, c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;une fois une telle couche en place, les briques utilisatrices sont r\u00e9ellement ind\u00e9pendantes des couches sous jacentes, et les probl\u00e8mes de mod\u00e9lisations \u00ab\u00a0du dessous\u00a0\u00bb ne remontent plus.<\/p>\n<p>Toute la difficult\u00e9 de l&rsquo;approche est qu&rsquo;<strong>il faut d\u00e9finir des objet avec le bon niveau d&rsquo;abstraction<\/strong>, \u00ab\u00a0comme si\u00a0\u00bb les autres \u00e9l\u00e9ments \u00e9taient nickel.<\/p>\n<p>Les difficult\u00e9s de cette approche, c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;elle n&rsquo;est <strong>pas imm\u00e9diatement rentable<\/strong> : on a un cout suppl\u00e9mentaire, pour d\u00e9finir, d\u00e9velopper et utiliser cette couche, ce qui est <strong>bien plus long que d&rsquo;aller chercher l&rsquo;information directement \u00e0 sa source<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">C&rsquo;est en fait toujours le cas avec les approches ou l&rsquo;on recherche la qualit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Prenons un simple d\u00e9veloppement web, pour une application quelconque. C&rsquo;est bien plus rapide de faire un petit d\u00e9veloppement, sans aucune approche qualit\u00e9, un petit programme qui pourra all\u00e8grement m\u00e9langer la couche pr\u00e9sentation, les logiques m\u00e9tiers et la couche de donn\u00e9es. bien plus rapide \u00e0 d\u00e9velopper (je dirais un facteur 3, pour fixer les id\u00e9es). Le surcout vien ensuite : le petit programme est rapidement impossible \u00e0 maintenir.<\/p>\n<p>A mon sens, deux cas de figures : soit les responsables sont \u00ab\u00a0convaincus\u00a0\u00bb, et on va pouvoir y aller, vendre cette approche.<\/p>\n<p>Soit ce n&rsquo;est pas le cas, les responsables n&rsquo;ont pas de culture SOA. Dans ce cas, je pense qu&rsquo;on peut quand m\u00eame avancer, mais par \u00e9tapes, et sans mettre en avant ce travail. Simplement, \u00e0 chaque demande d&rsquo;\u00e9volution, on prend un peu de temps pour d\u00e9finir et mettre en oeuvre une couche d&rsquo;\u00e9change.<\/p>\n<p>Bien s\u00fbr, le plus simple, c&rsquo;est quand cette approche est sponsoris\u00e9e par les chefs \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/112678702228711889851\/posts\/eVeouesvaVX\" target=\"_blank\">Un excellent article sur le sujet, par un gars qui a boss\u00e9 chez Amazon, Google<\/a> ;).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>D\u00e8s qu&rsquo;une boite a une certaine taille, qu&rsquo;elle a plusieurs canaux de distributions, un \u00ab\u00a0historique\u00a0\u00bb informatique, n\u00e9cessairement, le syst\u00e8me d&rsquo;information vieilli, devient de plus en plus compliqu\u00e9 et de plus en plus cher \u00e0 maintenir et \u00e0 faire \u00e9voluer. 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