{"id":462,"date":"2008-05-12T13:44:23","date_gmt":"2008-05-12T12:44:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/?p=462"},"modified":"2008-05-18T20:26:00","modified_gmt":"2008-05-18T19:26:00","slug":"internet-espace-commercial","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ziserman.com\/blog\/2008\/05\/12\/internet-espace-commercial\/","title":{"rendered":"Internet, espace commercial ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>J&rsquo;\u00e9tais en voiture ce matin, \u00e7a m&rsquo;a permit d&rsquo;\u00e9couter l&rsquo;\u00e9mission\u00a0<a title=\"Aller sur le site de l'\u00e9mission Service Public, sur France Inter\" href=\"http:\/\/www.radiofrance.fr\/franceinter\/em\/servicepublic\/\" target=\"_blank\">Service Public sur France Inter<\/a>, dont le sujet \u00e9tait : \u00ab\u00a0Les 10 plaies d&rsquo;Internet\u00a0\u00bb, avec deux invit\u00e9s, Christophe Parcot, DG France de Yahoo et\u00a0Dominique Maniez, qui vient d&rsquo;\u00e9crire un livre sur les risques li\u00e9es \u00e0 Internet.<\/p>\n<p>Beaucoup de choses int\u00e9ressantes dans ce d\u00e9bat, m\u00eame si le niveau \u00e9tait assez bas.<\/p>\n<p>Par exemple, sur les\u00a0<a title=\"Aller sur la d\u00e9finition Wikipedia sur les Cookies\" href=\"http:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cookie_(informatique)\" target=\"_blank\">Cookies<\/a>, il a \u00e9t\u00e9 dit pas mal de b\u00eatises. Les cookies, c&rsquo;est une technique, qui permet de garder la trace de votre venue sur un site, et de sauvegarder certaines options.<\/p>\n<p>Comme toute technique, elle peut \u00eatre utilis\u00e9e pour vous apporter un r\u00e9el service (\u00e9viter de ressaisir des options sur un service, sur lequel on revient), ou pour des d&rsquo;autres objectifs moins \u00ab\u00a0g\u00e9n\u00e9reux\u00a0\u00bb (am\u00e9liorer la connaissance sur les usages des clients, pour am\u00e9liorer l&rsquo;offre&#8230;).<\/p>\n<p>Autre sujet de discussion : GMail.<\/p>\n<p>Dominique Maniez est tr\u00e8s agressif contre Google, parce que celui ci, entre autre, analyse le contenu des emails, pour nous envoyer de la publicit\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0cibl\u00e9e\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Et de d\u00e9crire l&rsquo;analogie suivante : \u00ab\u00a0seriez vous pr\u00eat \u00e0 laisser votre facteur ouvrir votre courrier, pour vous glisser de la publicit\u00e9 cibl\u00e9e, en contrepartie d&rsquo;un service gratuit ?\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai trouv\u00e9 l&rsquo;analogie d\u00e9cal\u00e9e : le facteur, c&rsquo;est un homme, qui me conna\u00eet. Le service de Google effectivement analyse le contenu de mes mails, mais c&rsquo;est un programme. Et dans le contrat, si j&rsquo;ai bien lu, Google s&rsquo;interdit tout autre usage de cette connaissance (Google s&rsquo;engage \u00e0 respecter mon droit d&rsquo;auteur, et \u00e0 ne pas communiquer \u00e0 des tiers ces donn\u00e9es).<\/p>\n<p>Chacun fait comme il veut mais en ce qui me concerne, cela ne me d\u00e9range pas.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai trouv\u00e9 une question, pos\u00e9e par un auditeur, int\u00e9ressante : la question sur le m\u00e9lange, sur Internet, entre les usages non commerciaux et commerciaux.<\/p>\n<p>Le gars se demandait si cet \u00e9tat de fait \u00e9tait in\u00e9luctable, ou si on pouvait imaginer une s\u00e9paration, entre un monde fait d&rsquo;\u00e9changes de services, sans publicit\u00e9, sans services commerciaux, et monde rempli \u00ab\u00a0capitaliste\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Je pense qu&rsquo;effectivement, le business \u00ab\u00a0change tout\u00a0\u00bb et qu&rsquo;Internet est un espace investi par les entreprises. Le gars de Yahoo a beau dire qu&rsquo;il y a s\u00e9paration entre les r\u00e9ponses commerciales et les \u00ab\u00a0autres r\u00e9ponses\u00a0\u00bb, je ne trouve pas que dans les fait, cette s\u00e9paration soit tr\u00e8s nette. D&rsquo;ailleurs, c&rsquo;est bien le propos de l&rsquo;ensemble des boites qui travaillent le r\u00e9f\u00e9rencement naturel que de \u00ab\u00a0biaiser\u00a0\u00bb les r\u00e9ponses des moteurs de recherche, dans l&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat de leurs clients : des entreprises commerciales.<\/p>\n<p>Mais je ne pense pas qu&rsquo;une s\u00e9paration soit possible, ni m\u00eame souhaitable en fait. Internet n&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;une extension virtuelle de ce qui se passe dans le r\u00e9el. On retrouve \u00e0 ce niveau les m\u00eames m\u00e9canismes, les m\u00eames r\u00e8gles fondamentales.<\/p>\n<p>Internet est donc un espace ou se\u00a0c\u00f4toie\u00a0le capitalisme et un monde d&rsquo;utopie, de partage&#8230; Tout\u00a0cela\u00a0est \u00e9troitement m\u00eal\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Je pr\u00e9f\u00e8re ce mod\u00e8le parce qu&rsquo;il me semble que tous les autres mod\u00e8les reviendraient en fait \u00e0 un syst\u00e8me avec moins de libert\u00e9, moins de cr\u00e9ativit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>J&rsquo;\u00e9tais en voiture ce matin, \u00e7a m&rsquo;a permit d&rsquo;\u00e9couter l&rsquo;\u00e9mission\u00a0Service Public sur France Inter, dont le sujet \u00e9tait : \u00ab\u00a0Les 10 plaies d&rsquo;Internet\u00a0\u00bb, avec deux invit\u00e9s, Christophe Parcot, DG France de Yahoo et\u00a0Dominique Maniez, qui vient d&rsquo;\u00e9crire un livre sur les risques li\u00e9es \u00e0 Internet. 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